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Wednesday, July 6, 2016
GREAT NEWS FOR MEDI-CAL RECIPIENTS!
Wonderful news for many people who are on the Medi-Cal program.
California is very generous when qualifying low income and middle class families for Medi-Cal benefits, but there has been a nasty underbelly to this. California has an extremely aggressive and harsh estate recovery program.
As I have explained before on this blog, under current law there is a very real problem going on where impoverished people are forced to repay the government for the cost of their healthcare with their life savings after they die— often the family home.
Wednesday, January 15, 2014
HOW CAN I HELP A FRIEND IN CRISIS? FOUR SIMPLE TIPS TO GET THOUGH COMPLICATED SITUATIONS.
As an attorney I’m often called on in a crisis.
Someone has done something terrible, someone hates their spouse, someone got hurt, someone has died. I’m called. I jump in. Things (usually!) settle down.
Being an attorney, I have some advantages in this area (and cold-hearted b!#ch isn’t the main one, by the way, but the ability to stay calm in the midst of metaphorical or even actual blood and gore does help.)
But you don’t need to be an attorney to do a lot of what I do.
In fact, if you follow these simple guidelines you may be able to get things under control yourself:
1. Look for the resources.
Most of the time the person or people in crisis are in that particular crisis for the first time in their lives and they have absolutely no idea what resources are available to them if only they looked around.
Thursday, January 9, 2014
CONTINGENCY FEE, RETAINER FEE, FIXED FEE— WHAT DO THESE MEAN AND HOW MUCH IS MY LAWYER GOING TO CHARGE?
Ask Roxy understands your confusion. On my own website I try to be very clear about my pricing.
I’ll break it down for you here:
Tuesday, December 10, 2013
ALERT! GO ON MEDI-CAL AND LOSE YOUR FAMILY HOME!

Here is a bit of information that I couldn’t find on the Covered Californa website. In fact, it didn’t occur to me to look for it until a client recently asked me this question:
"I’m 55 and eligible for the expanded Medi-Cal program. If I go on the program will the State of California come after my property?”
When she asked me this simple enough question a few thoughts went through my head:
- Before the Affordable Care Act (AKA Obamacare) you could only be eligible for Medi-Cal if you were extremely poor. You couldn’t have more than $2000.00 in assets, in fact.
- After Obamacare, there is a lovely thing called “expanded Medi-Cal” which allows anyone under 65 with a low income (regardless of their net worth) to become eligible for health insurance through Medi-Cal. Here is a refresher on the changes to Medi-Cal under the ACA.
- By all accounts, this new law will greatly increase the rolls of people on Medi-Cal.
- In fact, the lovely Covered California website will direct you toward Medi-Cal instead of subsidized health insurance if you note a low income on the website form.
But here is what I could not find anywhere on the Covered California site (although I know they have to tell you somewhere along the way if you actually sign up for Medi-Cal):
If you are over 55 with an income low enough to be eligible for expanded Medi-Cal— your estate WILL be subject to recovery.
This means that for people between 55 and 65 it isn't simply health insurance: it is a LOAN.
Estate recovery means that the State wants a reimbursement for every dollar it spent on your health care while you were alive and, if a home is the only thing in your estate when you die, the home is what will be used to pay.
Hard to believe that the government would make it so easy for you to fall into a trap? It was for me too. So I looked at the statute. I felt sure that somewhere Obama and crew had put in a provision saying that if someone over 55 went onto the Covered California site and was directed to Medi-Cal instead of the subsidized programs the government wouldn’t seek reimbursement for their health care from their estate. After all, for someone right on the edge of eligibility the subsidized program provides health insurance for only $1.00 a month— check below for how I got this number. We know the government isn’t seeking reimbursement for all of those subsidies it is paying. Why would the government waive reimbursement for someone paying just $1.00 a month for their health insurance but demand reimbursement from someone who is too poor to pay even that?
I didn’t see anything in the law that would fill this huge gap. I checked the other State webpages (www.c4yourself.com not http://www.dhcs.ca.gov) that cover Medi-Cal looking for some information that would confirm that the people between 55-65 were protected, or at least confirm that they are not. Nothing.
In fact, if you look for the answer to the question “Do I have to pay for Medi-Cal?” in the FAQ section of the State page it gives this answer:
"It depends. If your income is less than Medi-Cal limits for your family size, you will receive Medi-Cal services at no cost to you. If your income is more than Medi-Cal limits for your family size, you will have to pay a certain amount only in the month you have medical expenses. This is called a share of cost.”
It neglects to mention that your heirs will have to pay for the services you received after the day you turned 55. I may be asking a bit too much, but I think when someone asks, “Do I have to pay?” they mean them paying as opposed to the government paying not them paying as opposed to their children. The handy-dandy FAQ section should read:
"It depends. If your income is less than Medi-Cal limits for your family size, you will receive Medi-Cal services at no cost to you, BUT YOUR HEIRS WILL HAVE TO PAY IT ALL BACK OUT OF WHATEVER YOU SAVED YOUR WHOLE LIFE IF YOU RECEIVE ANY BENEFITS AFTER AGE 55. If your income is more than Medi-Cal limits for your family size, you will have to pay a certain amount only in the month you have medical expenses. This is called a share of cost.”
Still hoping I’d just made a mistake and read the code wrong, I wrote to Medi-Cal directly. Here is the emailed response I got:
“Thank you for contacting the Department of Health Care Services (DHCS). Medi-Cal is required to recover the costs of medical assistance provided after the age of 55 from the estates of deceased Medi-Cal beneficiaries….This was not changed as a result of the passage of the Affordable Care Act. Natural and adopted children are treated the same under Medi-Cal.The applicable section of the federal law is Title 42, Unites States Code, Section 1396p(b).” (The emphasis is mine.)
The DSCS was quick to explained that all of the usual exceptions apply to this type of estate recovery, but neglected to comment on how fundamentally unfair it is to force very poor people ages 55-65 to pay for their health care with their homes while everyone else, from birth to death, is now eligible for either subsidized health insurance or (for those over 65) medicare.
THIS AGE 55-65 MEDI-CAL DONUT HOLE IS SO BIG YOUR HOME COULD FALL THROUGH IT.
Let me be clear: if you make the right amount to qualify for a subsidized health insurance plan, your costs are going to be shared and subsidized by the government. But if you go on Medi-Cal, you owe the entire amount that Medi-Cal spends on you from the day you turn 55.
If you die owing the State money for any medical services you received in the ten years between age 55 and age 65 when you became eligible for Medicare— your estate will have to pay. That means your heirs will get a nasty letter from the government saying they own however many thousands of dollars it spent on your behalf and they must pay out of their inheritance. If your only asset was your home, the State of California will graciously allow them to put a lien against the home in order to pay.
Of course, this is all part of a much larger problem. As you may or may not be aware, family homes are regularly lost to the government’s reimbursement claims because of the high cost of nursing home care. Contrary to popular hopes, Medicare does not cover long term nursing home costs. People must spend their own money on nursing home costs and then, when they are broke, they must go onto Medi-Cal. I have a post about the eligibility requirements. When they die, their estate is subject to reimbursement. Reimbursement is a federal mandated law, folks, so call your Congressperson to complain.
The fact that the government seeks reimbursement from homeowners at all is fundamentally at odds with the American Dream. Carol J. Wessels, who is an attorney in Wisconsin, makes this great point about using homes as reimbursement for medicaid:
The fact that the government seeks reimbursement from homeowners at all is fundamentally at odds with the American Dream. Carol J. Wessels, who is an attorney in Wisconsin, makes this great point about using homes as reimbursement for medicaid:
"This causes me to wonder why the state is taking such draconian steps against elderly individuals, just because they had the foresight to invest in the American Dream, a home. An individual who was less frugal, frittered money away and did not invest in a home, would receive the same Medicaid benefits, and not be penalized for being a homeowner. Even more offensive is that as far as I can tell, a homeowner can commit a crime and go to prison, receive food, housing and medical care there, which the State is required to provide, and still come out with no lien on their home. If I am wrong about that, I hope someone will point it out.”
Will Medicaid Recipients Ever be Able to Sell Their Homes Under Wisconsin’s New Budget Law?
SO BASICALLY, THIS HOUSE SIZED DONUT HOLE TREATS THE FRAIL ELDERLY OF OUR STATE WORSE THAN CRIMINALS
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COVERED CALIFORNIA ENTICES UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE INTO A PROGRAM THAT COULD RESULT IN THE LOSS OF THE FAMILY HOME.
I went onto the Covered California website and played around a bit. This is what I found:
- If you are an individual that makes less than $15,856 a year the site directs you to Medi-Cal. It doesn’t seem to even allow you to go forward and purchase coverage.
- If you are an individual that makes $15,857 a year you can get subsidized coverage at the SILVER level for $1.00 a month here in Santa Cruz (plan availability varies by county). That is a no-deductible plan everyone.
So, if you are over 55 and earn less than $15,856 a year, but have a home would you like to ask your children to cough up that $1.00 a month or would you like them to use that home to pay back the State after you die? I know what I would like to do, but the State doesn’t let you choose.
AS STRANGE AS IT SOUNDS, YOU HAVE TO PROVE UP ENOUGH INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES.
If anyone out there has come up with a solution to the problem of not having enough income to qualify for the Obamacare government subsidies, I’d love to hear it. One idea of mine is to do a reverse mortgage to slightly increase income but that still means that the poorest of the poor are having to pay mortgage companies fees and interest just to qualify for inexpensive health insurance. There are also trusts that can act as annuities, basically a way to give yourself a reverse mortgage. Another idea of mine is for an anticipated heir, such as a child, to employ the parent, but this raises tax issues….
Politics and theoretical discussions aside, if you are on Medi-Cal and you own a home, you should contact an Elder Law attorney right away. It is not good enough to simply go to an Estate Planning Attorney because the Medi-Cal laws are very difficult to understand and those of us that have made the effort are few and far between.
THERE ARE WAYS TO SAVE YOUR HOUSE, BUT THEY REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE YOUR HOUSE OUT OF YOUR ESTATE AND YOU NEED EXPERT ADVICE FOR THAT.
By the way, if removing your home from your estate to avoid reimbursement causes you to feel guilty, check out my webpage on the topic.
1/1/2014 UPDATE: Oregon just passed a new rule that they will not do estate recovery for ACA medicaid expansion enrollees! Washington is considering doing the same! Now for California…
Tuesday, October 15, 2013
I MARRIED MY DOMESTIC PARTNER! WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT OLD AGREEMENT?

Back in the dark ages (last spring), many gay and lesbian couples in California entered into domestic partnership agreements as a way to confirm their promises to each other because they did not have the right to marry. A marriage is basically a three way agreement between the government and the couple that includes all sorts of statutory rights and obligations the starry-eyed lovers may or may not be aware of. A domestic partnership agreement, however, is similar to a pre-marital agreement in that it is completely individualized to the particular couple involved. (My post on pre-marital agreements is called “Do I need a pre-marital agreement if I love my fiancé?”)
Saturday, August 17, 2013
I WANT TO ROCK OUT MY PODCAST WITH OTHER PEOPLE’S SONGS, ANY ISSUES?
So you’ve decided to start dj’ing for your internet fans and want to show off your prodigious talent for selecting cool tunes. Maybe this will kickstart your international empire of cool. Except, you don’t want to pay anyone to play.
Before you get rolling, I want to introduce you to a little friend of mine. He is called “copyright law”— and he is ever so cute. No, actually, I take that back. He isn’t cute at all. Copyright law in the United States (yes, this is federal U.S. law) applies to creative and expressive works, which are most of the things that are included in a podcast. This includes, for example, performances, scripts, interviews, musical works and sound recordings. Under current US copyright law, copyright attaches automatically to creative, expressive works once they have been “fixed”, i.e. written down or recorded. Copyright law gives the owner of copyright the exclusive right to control certain activities in relation to their work. Here are some examples of what a copyright owner can control:
Monday, July 22, 2013
Can I get help paying for someone to take care of me?
(Please note: This is a California specific post.)
Yes, you can if you qualify. In California, there is a program called “In-Home Supportive Services” for people with low income who need help paying for a personal assistant in their homes.
In-Home Supportive Services (IHSS) provide people with low-income who are blind, disabled, or 65 years old or older with personal assistance and other services so they can live safely in their homes. (Notice that I highlighted “blind” and “disabled,” that is because in public benefits world everything must be exactly defined — clicking on the links should give you the definitions.)
In-Home Supportive Services (IHSS) provide people with low-income who are blind, disabled, or 65 years old or older with personal assistance and other services so they can live safely in their homes. (Notice that I highlighted “blind” and “disabled,” that is because in public benefits world everything must be exactly defined — clicking on the links should give you the definitions.)
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